Thursday, September 9, 2010

Compromise!

You know, maybe only some of the Koran needs burning...

8 comments:

Soapbox Jill said...

No one should burn the Koran or the Bible or the American flag in America even though they have the right to.
One interesting aside on this, however, is that the response to burning Bibles by Christians is generally not to kill anyone over it. If burning the Koran would offend a moderate Muslim, would he or she suddenly feel it was alright to go out and kill someone? Or would it only be the radical believers that would become murderous?

Annie K. (snap-ed) said...

Not that I want to defend any threats over book-burning (which yes of course is really really bad yada yada) BUT
it's not a good idea to introduce comparisons with the relative non-violence of Christians in situations of Bible-burning. Christians NOW might not respond with violence. However through out history and very recent history at that - Christians have been a VERY very violent bunch, and in fact have been Jihadists in their own right.

Does the passage if time wash the hands clean? If so, then let's set a date for the moment when 911 is old news and just doesn't matter to anyone anymore.
Christians "responded" (and agressed) with extreme violence on native Americans in very recent history and I have living relatives who recall serious and abusive corporal punishment of children at a religious school.
Christians respond with violence ALL the time. In fact. This Koran-burner is a Christian (of sorts) are his acts NON-VIOLENT? I'd say no, he has full awareness of the chain of events that his acts will begin. Those events include violence.
The hand the strikes the match is responsible for the ENTIRE conflagration that ensues.
All "blood" that follows this Koran burning will be on this Christian man's hands as well those individuals who are eager to get caught up in this sad chain of destruction.
Smug belief that one's own group is somehow morally superior is a dangerous idea in all forms and even in the smallest of degrees.

Pot-stirrin'Stew said...

Yo Chiefy-weefy

Your output is down. I have noticed.
I doan care how busy you are, lets' get goin' again here. I got one or two other blogs I like but y'know, you're The Chief. That's not a thing you can just walk away from.

BTW I cleaned my desk yesterday and found a scrap of paper with TP's fone number on it. I almost called it just to be shitty and see what would happen. (wheeeee!)
Then I got interrupted and I stopped cleaning my desk so... I don't know where that scrap is now, and logic tells me I'll probably find it again then someday.
Let's keep me occupied. A bored Stewie is a bad bad thing.

mwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Grant said...

Or would it only be the radical believers that would become murderous?

The answer is f(x)=cos(2arccos(x)), with x representing the degree to which we are bombing or have bombed the shit out of their homeland.

Soapbox Jill said...

snappie annie: "The hand the strikes the match is responsible for the ENTIRE conflagration that ensues.
All "blood" that follows this Koran burning will be on this Christian man's hands as well those individuals who are eager to get caught up in this sad chain of destruction"

So, one idiot in America who burns a Koran is responsible for what anyone responding to him does. That's insane. He does not represent America. He does not represent me or you. Other people do not deserve to die for his idiotic action. Those "individuals" (you just cannot say Muslims, can you?) who would kill Americans because of one idiot are 100% responsible for their own acts of murder.

CJ said...

He just wants to put the Apocalypse on the fast track and go down in glorious rapture. Frickin moron's doing the devil's work for him.

The dude's a threat to national security.

That alone should make this a no brainer.

Grant said...

Other people do not deserve to die for his idiotic action

His idiocy is merely the latest in a long succession of idiocy.

This isn't a matter of a simple symbolic insult. That's like saying a drunk driving arrest led to the Watts riots.

Annie K. (snap-ed) said...

I stand by what I said.

The first shot fired in a war carries the special weight.
Each pull of a trigger after that has it's own significance, but once the chain of events has begun, people tend to think only of the immediately preceding act
i.e. the Israeli situation. Each responds in retaliatory retribution for the preceding act. This is a never-ending cycle now of repayment for repayment for repayment for repayment. A person knowingly starting such chain reactions should have a special place in Hell.

Leadership is an important thing. He can lead his flock to a Johnstown situation or to peaceable acts. A leader or general or a parent or teacher bears responsibility for what they urge those in their care to do.

If that is insanity then let me be officially certified.

I did also say that each person who gets involved is responsible too. If you re-read you will see that.

I would never presume to say when people "deserve to die" and I did not in my comment. Those are not my words or my thoughts.

Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim, how many times should I say that? I don't say it in the way you would apparently prefer because I don't see only Muslims getting involved in this conflict, should it escalate. I don't even know what your point is. But MUSLIM once again for you if that's a help.
I dunno what that was about.

btw I saw a woman on TV today say that the Mosque in NY will potentially bring many Muslims into that neighborhood. and she didn't think it was "right" for so many Muslim bodies to be "allowed" to get that close to the Trade center area. Just the people themselves, being Muslim. She was on national news declaring these people to be intrinsically unclean, their entire being and every cell in each individual body - inherently unworthy to be near certain soil.
And she had no shame for doing that.

If I was to personally pick the embodiment of Human Insanity, she might be a good candidate, or at least a runner-up. But not perhaps Miss Congeniality